Live in Las Vegas at Transform

Last week our team was at the Transform Conference in Las Vegas, connecting with HR practitioners and thought leaders. We decided to have some fun and do quick on the conference floor interviews with fellow attendees and friends of the pod. So this week we're spreading the fun and bringing you a special compilation episode of all of our interviews, which involve folks tooting your booting things about Vegas pop culture. And of course, as always, HR headlines. The audio was a bit tricky at times, so apologies in advance for that and for saying you heard it here at the end of pretty much every interview. I hope you enjoy.

Our guests:

Theresa Fesinstine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresafesinstine/

Nadia Eran: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadiaeran/

Kim Minnick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-minnick/

Rebecca Taylor: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccataylor2/

Daniel Huerta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-huerta-mpl/

Stephen Huerta: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenhuerta/

Lia Seth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liaseth/

Stefanie Fackrell: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stefaniefackrell-hr-rebel/

The headlines: 

Accusations of Corporate Espionage Shake a Software Rivalry

Cameo puts its money where its office is with new RTO policy

Resignation By Proxy: A New Workplace Trend Leaders Should Watch

Typing loudly, wearing AirPods: ‘taskmasking’ is how gen Z pretends to work at the office 

Transcript

Stacey Nordwall (00:00):
Welcome to Toot or Boot. I'm your host, Stacey Nordwall. Last week our team was at the Transform Conference in Las Vegas, connecting with HR practitioners and thought leaders. We decided to have some fun and do quick on the conference floor interviews with fellow attendees and friends of the pod. So this week we're spreading the fun and bringing you a special compilation episode of all of our interviews, which involve folks tooting your booting things about Vegas pop culture. And of course, as always, HR headlines. The audio was a bit tricky at times, so apologies in advance for that and for saying you heard it here at the end of pretty much every interview. I hope you enjoy.

(00:40):
Welcome everyone. We are here with Theresa and Nadia today, and we are tooting or booting on the street at Transform. We're going to start off with something about Vegas. What do you think of the Sphere toot or boot? The Sphere.

Theresa Fesinstine (00:57):
Toot

Nadia Eran (00:57):
Boot

Theresa Fesinstine (00:59):
Tooting it. It is the most amazing venue. The inside, the outside, everything about it fully immersive. I saw a video the other day of a concert that was being streamed at the sphere, and it actually completely looked like you were there live. So it creates an opportunity for people to seek folks that they've never been able to see. Toot!

Nadia Eran (01:18):
Boot! I haven't actually been, but I'm an avid Google reviews reader, and if you just take a moment to look, you'll see overpriced and inaccessible seats are really small and people are complaining about how it makes it really difficult for them to be in this very immersive experience. And so I would just push the sphere to think about who do they want to have this amazing experience, and that's why I booted for now.

Stacey Nordwall (01:44):
Okay, love it. And constructive feedback as well. That's great. Okay, now we're going to talk about something pop culture related. If you have heard about it, the $19 Erewhon Strawberry.

Nadia Eran (02:00):
I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Stacey Nordwall (02:02):
It's a strawberry. That they're selling for $19 because it's fancy.

Nadia Eran (02:07):
Oh, I'll toot it.

Stacey Nordwall (02:08):
Oh really? You're tooting a 19 strawberry!?

Nadia Eran (02:11):
I'm tooting. Should I start? Let's start with the positive. Yeah, go. Okay. The tooter. I think that we should just zoom out. When you look back in history, we constantly have you read the botany of Desire. We constantly had this love affair when it comes to things that are so beautiful, so juicy, so amazing. And when we look at what happened to the Dutchies with the tulips, tulip bulbs went in price for hundreds of dollars. This is just the ups and downs of our society and our economy, and I love it. If we're going to be in a new space, let's have some new strawberries. I want to taste one. I'm interested. Why is caviar $500? It's just some eggs inside of a fish. Maybe the strawberry is better. Toot!

Theresa Fesinstine (02:55):
Okay. I feel like this is unfair. If you notice anything about Nadia, if you first met her at a conference, she always wears an incredibly large strawberry earring as she is wearing right now. So I feel like it was a feta cone plea that she was going to be a tooter for the strawberry. I am a booter for the strawberry because of this. I value Nadia's opinion. However, the truth is that creating a fruit in a molecular gastronomy environment or with chemicals and all the other things that have to go into create this hyper perfect strawberry takes way too many environmental natural resources from us. And as somebody who talks a lot about natural resources relative to other things that are coming up in the world, I would say, do we need the $19 strawberry when you could get a perfectly fine $12 one? I don't think so.

Nadia Eran (03:46):
12 dollars?! You convinced me. I'm giving it a toot.

Stacey Nordwall (03:52):
Okay. This one. This is our last one. This is an HR headline Dropping today. It has dropped hot from the New York Times. Rippling is suing Deel for corporate espionage, claiming that Deel placed a mole inside of Ripplings Dublin office. What do you think about?

Theresa Fesinstine (04:15):
Are we tooting or booting the news story? Are we tooting or booting Or rippling doing? Yeah, so they're saying that Deel. Put somebody in rippling or rippling, put somebody in Deel.

Nadia Eran (04:25):
Deal. Put somebody in rippling and rippling is suing them. And I'm going. And then if we too, are we tooting for rippling?

Stacey Nordwall (04:33):
I mean, I think you're just tooting for them fighting each other because they're both aggressive and terrible.

Nadia Eran (04:40):
Toot, she just gave our answer. We're a toot. And honestly, people have been doing this since the beginning of time. Go for it. Fight. Protect your data.

Theresa Fesinstine (04:52):
I love that. My analogy is that we've been doing it since we've been drawing on rocks with rocks, and I absolutely concur with my good friend Nadia. This is a toot. Fight it out, battle it out, and may the less worst win.

Stacey Nordwall (05:10):
We are here at Transform with Rebecca and Kim, and we're about to do another Toot or Boot on the street. We're going to start off with the phrase, what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What do you think about it?

Kim Minnick (05:21):
Toot

Rebecca Taylor (05:21):
I'm going to toot it.

Kim Minnick (05:22):
Toot, it's stay here.

Rebecca Taylor (05:24):
We're saying it.

Kim Minnick (05:25):
We're staying here. Go Vegas.

Stacey Nordwall (05:27):
Once you've created it, you can't change the motto.

Rebecca Taylor (05:30):
And this is where you have the conversations that need to matter and you can't be worried about everything just following you everywhere. It's like you need to be able to be honest.

Stacey Nordwall (05:36):
Okay. All right. Alright, next up. Meta thinks that their smart glasses are going to replace smartphone.

Kim Minnick (05:45):
Boot!

Rebecca Taylor (05:45):
Boot!

Kim Minnick (05:45):
Didn't we have Google AI glasses and didn't those die? Didn't we have other glasses and then we're done.

Stacey Nordwall (05:51):
It's like the Metaverse. That was such a success.

Rebecca Taylor (05:53):
Not into it. I don't even wear my normal glasses. I'm not going to be wearing meta glasses.

Stacey Nordwall (06:00):
Okay, and last cameo has decided that they're giving anyone who wants to return to the office a $10,000 raise to incentivize them to return, but they're not giving it to employees who want to work from home.

Rebecca Taylor (06:11):
Boot!

Kim Minnick (06:14):
Boot! 10,000 is not enough to get me to go back to an office. Oh, okay.

Rebecca Taylor (06:18):
I mean, my commuting costs are going to be high enough. And then the amount of time that it's going to take off my life just to actually commute. Granted, I live like two hours from a major city, so I couldn't do it.

Stacey Nordwall (06:27):
I didn't even think about that. I was thinking about it from an equity standpoint, but I like the fact that you're just like, no, it's inconvenient.

Kim Minnick (06:32):
Inconvenient out. Done boot.

Stacey Nordwall (06:34):
Yeah. Okay, great. There you heard it here.

(06:39):
We're here for another Toot or Boot on the street with our favorite podcast, Modern People Leader. Daniel and Steven, we're going to start off with something Vegas related. What do you think about all you can eat Buffets?

Daniel Huerta (06:51):
Boot.

Stacey Nordwall (06:54):
What's yours?

Stephen Huerta (06:55):
I'm a toot.

Stacey Nordwall (06:56):
Why do you boot? All you can eat buffets. I'm so curious.

Daniel Huerta (07:00):
When I hear all you can eat buffets. I think food poisoning.

Stephen Huerta (07:02):
 Oh wow.

Daniel Huerta (07:06):
I mean, honestly, so

Stacey Nordwall (07:08):
I think you're not wrong.

Daniel Huerta (07:09):
Yeah, the expo center. Every time I look at the food, I just think to myself, I pray to God that I do not get sick.

Stephen Huerta (07:17):
Oh wow.

Stacey Nordwall (07:18):
You're like somebody for sure sneezed on it.

Daniel Huerta (07:20):
Yes,

Stephen Huerta (07:21):
I'm a toot. Because I think of the epic breakfast buffets that have Make your own omelet, waffles.

Stacey Nordwall (07:30):
You want one of everything?

Stephen Huerta (07:31):
I want it all. All right.

Stacey Nordwall (07:32):
 I love it. Okay, next up. Ted Lasso is coming back for season four. Toot or Boot?

Daniel Huerta (07:39):
Toot. You're booting it. Why?

Stephen Huerta (07:44):
It seems, I don't know, not good. Well, it's going to be even, they weren't sure. It took 'em all this time to figure out if they were going to even do another season.

Daniel Huerta (07:51):
It's going to be a women's team now. Right?

Stephen Huerta (07:52):
That part I like. I'm a girl dad.

Daniel Huerta (07:54):
I think if they kept it with the same team, maybe it would've ended up being like, why are we still doing this? But at least it's going to be a new team and a new story. So you can almost think of it as Ted lasso season one with question.

Stephen Huerta (08:08):
It's questionable.

Stacey Nordwall (08:10):
Okay, and now this is for an HR headline. There is a new trend in Japan that is called Resignation by Proxy, which allows employees to hire people to resign on their behalf so that they don't have to be confronted with guilt tripping or pressure to stay when they want to quit in a toxic environment costs 100 $500. What do you think?

Daniel Huerta (08:32):
Toot, if I had this service for delivering bad news to people that have asks of us that we can't do or Hey, what's up, what's up? Or, I don't know. Just delivering bad news to people is not my forte. I just hate those conversations. It's so uncomfortable. And so if I had somebody that could do that,

Stephen Huerta (08:58):
yeah, I'm old school. That's part of problem. We need to have hard conversations. This is part of the problem.

Stacey Nordwall (09:08):
All right there you heard it.

(09:13):
This time we have Stephanie and Lia joining us and we're going to start off with another Vegas thing for you to Toot or Boot Cirque de Soleil.

Lia Seth (09:26):
I toot. I've seen a couple shows. It's been a long time though. I think the last que sole show I saw, I was a kid. They're fun, they're entertaining. But I do understand the boot because it's like once you've seen one, it's like, okay, I know. I think there are some that have their distinct differences.

Stefanie Fackrell (09:47):
 I think they're overrated. And how many people whirling on whatever can you watch bending and folding, preach,

Stacey Nordwall (09:58):
Folding their bodies in half, like whatever. Okay. I like it. That's great. Okay, now we're going to do another, we're going to do a pop culture one. What do you think about White Lotus? The tv show?

Lia Seth (10:14):
I Don't watch anything with a plot, so I do not have an opinion on it. I have never seen any of the shows, so when I say any of the shows, I mean any of the shows I've seen, anything I don't watch. Wow, okay. This season I've heard. It's wonderful. I've heard it's amazing. Everyone telling me that I have to watch. It just makes me not watch it more.

Stefanie Fackrell (10:40):
I get that. This season, I am calling it The Ugly American season because everybody, except for the sister and Little brother, seem to be awful except for Parker Posey because she's just incredible. Yes.

Lia Seth (10:54):
Isn't the whole point that everyone in that show is awful.

Stefanie Fackrell (10:57):
No, there's always, there's a couple of nice people at all times, but I love Thailand, so I'm happy it's there, but it is the ugly American season. I can't wait to see what happens with the slimy Patrick.

Stacey Nordwall (11:12):
Oh yeah. He's very good at being gross.

Stefanie Fackrell (11:15):
Yeah, he's kind of a perfect,

Lia Seth (11:18):
yeah, I guess I would formally call that a boot because I would just boot any shows.

Stacey Nordwall (11:22):
Any show with a plot.

Lia Seth (11:23):
With a plot, I watch trash.

Stacey Nordwall (11:25):
Alright, great.

Lia Seth (11:25):
I Fully admit.

Stacey Nordwall (11:27):
Okay, and now we are going to, let's see, we'll do an HR headline. This one is about the trend of task masking, and this is Gen Z. They're saying that it's a Gen Z thing, that they are basically strategically pretending to work. They're typing really loud, carrying their laptops around walking real fast, and that's To make it basically give the illusion of productivity.

Stefanie Fackrell (12:00):
I'd say toot, because I think people have been doing that since I was going to say we've been working.

Lia Seth (12:03):
I toot, the concept, I boot the title because why do we have to give a catchy name to everything? Quiet quitting, whatever we're doing. Quiet, firing someone. We're ghosting. It's like,

Stefanie Fackrell (12:16):
I do like revenge quitting though, but task masking.

Lia Seth (12:20):
It's like, yeah, we always just been like, , oh, I'm just going to take this clipboard and this heavy box and just walk around and be like, no one bother me. I'm super busy and agreed.

Stacey Nordwall (12:30):
I feel Like this is I mean. It's been around as long as George Costanza was doing it on Seinfeld. Right. So come on. Okay. Exactly.

Lia Seth (12:38):
Great. I think, Hey, you know what? Rewards the strategy.

Stacey Nordwall (12:40):
Reward the strategy. All right. Fantastic.